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seed – Is a private key that is created with an additional passphrase included in the existing 24 worded private key basket?

Moussa by Moussa
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I believe the following to be true:

  • Sequences of keys generated from seeds are indistinguishable from random sequences (except at extremely large scales).
  • Seeds with the tiniest difference produce completely different sequences.
  • The sequences are infinite in length.
  • The elements of the sequences are members of a finite set.

The consequences should be clear.

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A longer, meandering and unsatisfyingly-unquantified answer might be:

If you add (or omit) a passphrase, does it generate the same private key sometime?

The most popular definition for 24-word seed phrases, which are also called recovery phrases sometimes, is BIP-39

This allows for an optional additional passphrase to be used together with the seed phrase when calculating the private keys. The passphrase adds an extra layer of security and different passphrases will cause different private keys to be generated.

This system is invariably used with BIP-32 Hierarchical Deterministic (HD) wallets. These wallets generate, not just one, but a whole series of private keys from the seed data.

The consequence is, if you lose your wallet and forget your passphrase, you can’t recover control over your money only using the seed phrase.


Note that some wallets also use a password or passphrase to encrypt some or all of their wallet data. This is a different passphrase from the one used with the seed phrase when creating a new wallet or recovering a lost wallet. It is easy to get confused by this. Don’t get them mixed up.


Addendum

Lets say you create wallet A and wallet B as follows

Wallet seed phrase pass phrase
A boss rural month arm exit elegant eight grain palace biology pistol control outside album slab top boil absorb tree mean street giggle head frozen Alex
B boss rural month arm exit elegant eight grain palace biology pistol control outside album slab top boil absorb tree mean street giggle head frozen Axle

Because Alex is not Axle, Wallets A and B will each generate a different sequence of private keys. Lets call these sequences baskets A and B.

Lets say you are a very busy person, perhaps you buy Amazon, eBay and Alibaba and make every transaction worldwide, pay to a new private key in one of your wallets, alternating them.

In the very short term (the first million years say), Perhaps baskets A and B will be disjoint sets.

However

Every key is in every basket, given enough time.

Every key is in every basket an infinite number of times, given infinite time.

See Bitcoin collider

Of course, the Earth will be be swallowed by the Sun in the forseeable future, so there may not be enough time. You’d have to ask a statistician and base an estimate on a prediction of future computing power and how that may be bounded by the amount of matter in the accessible universe and various other physical constraints.



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